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Out-of-hours commitments and corresponding banding during GP rotations within ST1/2 of GP VTS training

Hello,

Is anyone aware of the Out-of-hours commitments and corresponding banding during GP rotations within ST1/2 of GP VTS training?

I am due to start as a GP ST1 at the Royal Free in August.

Many thanks

Ben

4 replies

  • Hi Ben,

    The banding system in GP training works very differently in GP placements compared to the hospital placements.  Like in hospitals, you would get the basic pay that is on the same pay scale.  On top of the basic pay, you will also receive a recruitment and retainment supplement of 45%.  This percentage is negotiated annually, but has remained at 45% for the last few years.  This is however NOT dependent on the amount of OOH commitments.  As a rough indicator, you will be expected to do one session (4-6 hours approximately) of OOH work per month per FTE.  This is is the same in all 3 years of GP placements: when in GP, you will do one OOH session per month.  Having said all of the above, you do need to be aware that the BMA is in negotiations with NHS Employers about a new contract for all doctors in training and all of the above may change in the not so distant future.  The association will keep you informed of these developments.

    Hope that helps.

    Kind regards,

    Krishna Kasaraneni

    Chair - GP Trainees' Subcommittee of the BMA

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous

    In reply to Krishna Kasaraneni:

    Many thanks for your reply.

    Leading on from this, I am obviously concerned re the DDRB recommendation to cut the GP trainee pay supplementation.

    Could this be implemented to people such as myself who have already started training?
  • In reply to Anonymous:

    Hi

    The short answer is possibly - we don't yet know what the exact details are for implementing (or imposing) a new contract. If you are on a single lead employer contract, you may be a little more protected, but this isn't guaranteed. It could be that it is agreed that anyone already started training can continue on their current contract until CCT. Equally, it might be that the Dept of Health/NHSE decide to impose a contract on every trainee next August. Or something else.

    I'm sorry its not a very definite answer, but there are currently a lot of unknowns about the whole thing.

    Obviously, cutting the GP trainee supplement will be a disaster for recruitment, and I really hope no one is that short sighted.

    Conan Castles

    Chair Northern Ireland Junior Doctor's Committee
    JDC rep to GP Trainee Subcommittee
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous

    In reply to CONAN CASTLES:

    Thanks that's very useful.

    I hear today the subject was debated and it was decided that the new junior doctor contract is going to be forced through. Part of that will include an end to our supplement ie a 44% pay cut.

    I was wondering where this leaves us? What are the BMA's plans to prevent this from happening?